Open Droprate master grievance list

Discussion in 'Bug Reports' started by Jae, Jun 5, 2018.

  1. Donger

    Donger Orange Mushroom

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    I hope the staff is taking sample size into consideration especially when it comes to nerfing drop rates.

    • Mob/Map: Master Chronos
    • Item that was being farmed: LUK crystal ore
    • Est # of mobs killed: 1000+ [Not sure on specfics but estimate is based on EXP from 39-43 from BBB which has less steep of a curve compared to v62 iirc] divided by EXP of master chronos.
    • Your Job: I/L Wizard
    • Your Level: 39-43
    • # of hits to kill mob.: ? don't remember, but this info is not really relevant when you take into consideration the number of mobs killed.

    Received 2 LUK crystal ores and 0 helm dex 60s.


    • Mob/Map: Platoon Chronos
    • Item that was being farmed: GFA 60
    • Est # of mobs killed: 1000+ [Not sure on specfics but estimate is based on EXP from 35-39 from BBB which has less steep of a curve compared to v62 iirc] divided by EXP of platoon chronos.
    • Your Job: I/L Wizard
    • Your Level: 35-39
    • # of hits to kill mob.: ? don't remember, but this info is not really relevant when you take into consideration the number of mobs killed.
    0 GFA over 500 mobs
     
  2. Cyndy

    Cyndy Banana Contributor

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    • Mob/Map: Pigs/Henesys Pig Farm & Pig Beach
    • Item that was being farmed: Pig's Head
    • Est time spent farming: 1 hour
    • Est # of mobs killed: 400
    • Your Job: Wizard (Ice, Lightning)
    • Your Level: 39
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 1
    Just to stress how bad the spawn rate of Pig's Head are (and I realized someone else also reported), I managed to get over 2XX+ Pig's Ribbon, 47 Leather, 51 Stiff Feathers but ONLY 1 Pig's Head and it dropped on the first few Pigs I killed.

    I would appreciate a buff in the spawn rate! As it seems impossible to complete quests that requires the item T_T.
     
  3. akash

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    • Mob/Map: Crimsonwood Mountain Cavern of Honor/Nightshadow
    • Item that was being farmed: Nightshadow badge
    • Est time spent farming: ~15min
    • Est # of mobs killed: ~100
    • Your Job: Bishop
    • Your Level: 136
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 3
    Basically the nightshadows dropped only meso, nothing else. Also, upon typing in droplist in game with nightshadow, it shows that it drops nothing. Obviously, I did not spend enough time killing them to accurately verify this, but most monsters in the game drop something other than mesos (even an ore) after 15 mins of farming them on a MAGE.
     
  4. Mike

    Mike Father Helios Director Helios Team

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    Drop rates up to this post have been reviewed and adjusted as necessary. If you decide to try again and believe more needs to be done, make a new post and we'll review it once more. Thank you all for your reports!
     
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  5. impecunious

    impecunious Snail

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    • Mob/Map: ligator
    • Item that was being farmed: maple staff (never got it)
    • Est time spent farming: 1 1/2hrs (90minutes)
    • Est # of mobs killed: idk
    • Your Job: i/l mage
    • Your Level: 35
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 3 with claw, 6 with thunder bolt(mainly used thunderbolt
    edit: got 4 maple scorpios in the process..
     
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  6. Stan

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    • Mob/Map: Dark Nependeath - Strolling Path II
    • Item that was being farmed: Dark Nependeath Seed
    • Est time spent farming: 10minutes
    • Est # of mobs killed: It seems to be around a 25% drop rate from the mobs
    • Your Job: DrK
    • Your Level: 146
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 1 Hit Dragon Roar
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    • Mob/Map: Nependeath - Strolling Path I
    • Item that was being farmed:Nependeath Seed
    • Est time spent farming: 3 minutes
    • Est # of mobs killed: It seems to be around a 20% drop rate from the mobs
    • Your Job: DrK
    • Your Level: 146
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 1 Hit Dragon Roar
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    • Mob/Map: Cloud Fox - Zipangu: The Mountain of Cloud Fox
    • Item that was being farmed:Newspaper Hat
    • Est time spent farming: 20mins? not idea tbh
    • Est # of mobs killed: 800
    • Your Job: DrK
    • Your Level: 146
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 1 Hit Dragon Roar
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    • Mob/Map: Dark Axe Stump
    • Item that was being farmed: Sap of the Ancient Tree
    • Est time spent farming: 20min - obtained 1 Sap
    • Est # of mobs killed: -
    • Your Job: DrK
    • Your Level: 146
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 1 Hit Dragon Roar
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    • Mob/Map: Slime
    • Item that was being farmed: Red Ball of Yarn (Quest Item)
    • Est time spent farming: n/a
    • Est # of mobs killed: - over 1000
    • Your Job: DrK
    • Your Level: 146
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 1 Hit Dragon Roar
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    • Mob/Map: Brown and Green Plants near Ellinia - The Tree that Grew I/II/III
    • Item that was being farmed: Plant Sample
    • Est time spent farming: 5mins
    • Est # of mobs killed: - 10 - dropped one
    • Your Job: DrK
    • Your Level: 146
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 1 Hit Dragon Roar
    - They take awhile to respawn and there's only a few in each map. IMO reactor drops should be 100% if not close.

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    • Mob/Map: Gatekeeper
    • Item that was being farmed: Soul Contract (Hex of the Beholder item)
    • Est time spent farming: ~15
    • Est # of mobs killed: - 72 until I got one which seems a bit too high
    • Your Job: DrK
    • Your Level: 146
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 2
    - May have just been unlucky? Another Drk said it took him about 30 Gatekeepers.

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    • Mob/Map: Thantos
    • Item that was being farmed: Magical Array of the Spirit (Aura of the Beholder item)
    • Est time spent farming: ~12
    • Est # of mobs killed: - 64 until I got one
    • Your Job: DrK
    • Your Level: 146
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 2
    - May have just been unlucky? Another Drk said it took him about 30 Gatekeepers

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    • Mob/Map: Curse Eyes - Hunting Ground in the Deep Forest II
    • Item that was being farmed: Blackbull's deed to the land
    • Est time spent farming:
    • Est # of mobs killed: 1000+
    • Your Job: DrK
    • Your Level: 148
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 1 Hit Dragon Roar
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    • Mob/Map: Aqua Road Treasure Chest reactor boxes
    • Item that was being farmed: Piece of paper A-E
    • Est time spent farming: n/a
    • Est # of mobs killed: 15 - I dont think they drop atm or theyre super rare.
    • Your Job: DrK
    • Your Level: 148
    • # of hits to kill mob.: n/a
     
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  7. akash

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    • Mob/Map: Sakura Cellion
    • Item that was being farmed: Cherry Blossom
    • Est time spent farming: ~15
    • Est # of mobs killed: - 300 and i only got 3 cherry blossoms.
    • Your Job: NL/Bish
    • Your Level: 16x
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 1
     
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  8. ChristLove

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    I second this. I killed more than 300 and I got 0 cherry blossoms.
     
  9. Kavin

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    • Mob/Map: Leatty
    • Item that was being farmed: Snow Crystal
    • Est time spent farming: 15 mins
    • Est # of mobs killed: - hundreds upon hundreds and got 0 snow crystals
    • Your Job: NL/
    • Your Level: 12x
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 1
     
  10. DIGGYDAWGIE

    DIGGYDAWGIE Desert Rabbit

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    • Mob/Map: CROWS IN ZIPANGU
    • Item that was being farmed: SHOE JUMP 30%
    • Est time spent farming: 2 HOURS
    • Est # of mobs killed: I WENT FROM 65% to 77% AS A LEVEL 100 HERMIT
    • Your Job: HERMIT
    • Your Level: 100
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 1

      i hit these guys non stop while watching hunchback of notre dame on my windows tabs, i use FJ and avenger and i only got ONE SCROLL but i got TEN 30% HELMET DEFENSE!!! AND LOTS AND LOTS OF BLUEWHITE BOTTOM SHOES. I cannot spend this much time trying to scroll shoes to wear a new weapon. please is the ratio between helm def scroll and shoe jump equal or skewed? how is this possible i get 10 to 1? how long will it take me to get a scrolled shoe? how much more time do i need to put before i get more scroll?
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  11. DIGGYDAWGIE

    DIGGYDAWGIE Desert Rabbit

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    • Mob/Map: nightghost IN ZIPANGU
    • Item that was being farmed: CLAW 30%
    • Est time spent farming: 1 HOUR
    • Est # of mobs killed: a lot
    • Your Job: HERMIT
    • Your Level: 105
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 1
      no scrolls at all, will try tomorrow

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  12. okwes

    okwes Helmet Pepe Contributor

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    Dude, I feel your pain, but unfortunately, it's nearly impossible for staff to balance drop rate for a Hermit, while the current mages exist. My suggestion is to bite the bullet and make a bishop to farm with.

    Keep in mind, you may still go an hour w/o getting claw 30%. I've done a 2hr session there before and got 2 in my first hour and none in my second.
     
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    DIGGYDAWGIE Desert Rabbit

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  14. samplesize

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    • Mob/Map: Nependeath / Strolling Path
    • Item that was being farmed: Nependeath's Seed
    • Est time spent farming: ~15 minutes
    • Est # of mobs killed: ~30
    • Your Job: Cleric
    • Your Level: 49
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 4
    In this time frame, I only got 2 seeds and noticed that none of the nependeaths dropped any money so I gave up. Their drop rate is abysmal and only makes their associated quests more difficult.
     
  15. Rachel

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    Uhm, not sure is this thread is still maintained since only one post is from this year. But i want to add another thing to the list...

    • Mob/Map: Master Chronos / The Path of Time <4>
    • Item that was being farmed: Helmet DEX 60% / Luk Crystal Ores
    • Est time spent farming: 1 hour
    • Est # of mobs killed: Hard to tell, had 2.5k etc items 'Cog's' but i didn't focus on looting those at all
    • Your Job: Dark Knight
    • Your Level: 164
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 1 hit for 15 kills, farmed with Dragon Roar
    As you can see in the attached screenshots i found only 3 helmet dex 60% scrolls (as comparison i farmed these scrolls there a couple of month ago and got like 10 in 30 minutes). In the time i was there i also found 34 LUK crystal ores which seems to be fine, i just thought i'll add those for reference since their droprate got reported a few times in this thread already.

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    As a side note, it took me 50 minutes to fill my inventory with Equip drops. When i farmed there a couple month ago it only took me 10-20 minute to do that. Something is definitely wrong with them.
     
  16. Ario

    Ario The Catcher in the Rye Development Helios Team

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    The drop rate of helmet dex 60% from Master Chronos has been increased.
    I've also checked the drop rate of other equips, it seems to match with rates of other mobs, therefore no action has been taken on that field.
     
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  17. 87karlos

    87karlos Oly Oly

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    • Mob/Map: Stone Golem/Entrance to the golem temple
    • Item that was being farmed: shield for att 30%
    • Est time spent farming: 30 min
    • Est # of mobs killed: lets say 1k based on the amount of golem's etc
    • Your Job: bish
    • Your Level: 177
    • # of hits to kill mob.: 1 hit for 15 kills, farmed with Genesis
    As you can see in the SS, I was able to farm only 1 dark scroll for shield for att 30%, the SS showed 2 but I had 1 already when I started, hence I'd like to request the drop rate to be buffed.

    FYI: I was also able to fill my equip inv in 30 min
     

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  18. Patrick

    Patrick Helmet Pepe Contributor

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    Mob/Map: Phantom Forest – Creeping Evil (Leprechaun)
    Item that was being farmed: Lucky Charm
    Est time spent farming: 2 - 3 hours+
    Est # of mobs killed: 1000
    Your Job: Bishop
    Your Level: 171
    # of hits to kill mob.: 1

    I tracked the time it took for a Lucky Charm to drop from Leprechauns 14 times. On average, you can get a Lucky Charm around once every 3 minutes 11 seconds by killing 2 Leprechaun's on Creeping Evil every 8/9 seconds or so. Since you need 30 Lucky Charms to complete part of the quest to obtain the Silver Deputy Star, that would take you around 1 hour 35 minutes to gather 30 Lucky Charms. Personally, I am in favour of keeping the drop rate relatively low for this item since it would otherwise devalue the Silver Deputy Star. However, since there is also no summon farming on this server, and in my opinion, taking an hour and a half+ to obtain 30 monster etc drops from a low levelled mob, seems a bit extreme, even for me. I think the current drop rate of Lucky Charms should be increased. plz
     
  19. 87karlos

    87karlos Oly Oly

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    Mob/Map: Zeta GrayOmega Sector: Kulan Field III

    Item that was being farmed: scroll for shield att 10 min
    Est time spent farming: 30min
    Est # of mobs killed: 800-1000
    Your Job:
    Bishop
    Your Level: 177
    # of hits to kill mob.: 1

    I only managed to farm 2 shield for att 10% at zeta gray, hence id like to ask for the drop rate to be buffed as that is the only mob dropping such scroll, same for golems with scroll 30%
     

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  20. Rachel

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    I went there again yesterday to check how the new drop rate is and I found 11 scrolls in 1 hour. So it definitely is much better now and farmable again :)
    The rate is still like half of what it used to be before the last big patch tho, but I guess that's intentional? As it seemed to be overpowered for classes with access to Gen, Blizz, Meteor and Roar.

    Just a general question, was it intended that the last big patch changed lot's of drop rates over all in the game? Or should all of them be as they were before?
     
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